This week the guys talk about the upcoming summit that's turned out to be something of a damp squib.

Paddy Brussels makes a timely return while Aarti Shankar, policy analysist with Open Europe, makes her pod debut.

In the first half we discuss with Paddy Brussels:

3:50 Brussels being fed up with brexit

5:10 How the summit has petered out as being relevent to brexit and why the UK backstop position doesn't work

7:53 Is a no deal a realistic proposition.

8:37 Can Merkel get support for her position on asylum?

9:10 And we talk about an imperfect backstop versus none at all.

10:11 Ireland's allies in a new, non UK Europe.

In the second half we talk to Aarti Shankar and we talk about:

13:41 Why people voted to leave the EU (immigration unsurprisingly pops up)

17:10 Will there be a second referendum?

18:13 What role will the UK parliament have in deciding a final deal, and whether the pro EU Tory rebels aren't rebels at all.

21:16 How the EU summit is now a damp squib

22:30 Why the UK backstop proposition doesn't work but equally why the EU aren't being realistic in negotiations

26:15 Why are the EU backing Ireland so strongly?

27:54 Is a no deal scenario a bluff and will the final timeline in October actually be pushed back?

30:17 How frustrated are UK businesses?

Follow Aarti on twitter @rtshankar and check out more work from Open Europe here: https://openeurope.org.uk